I’ve not heard any comment about this either from Liberty, or from David Davis. Why not? It’s a major free speech issue.
I’ve not heard any comment about this either from Liberty, or from David Davis. Why not? It’s a major free speech issue.
Are you surprised… it is ‘inconvenient’ for Liberty… possibly? and Davis may find Mr Wilders not to his taste… possibly?
Maybe both will pop out. Rule of Law? Interesting concept whn convenient… not so.. when ‘inconvenient’… possibly?
Totally agree,contrast the situation with Geert Wilders with the spineless stance taken with Abu Hamza who preached death and hate weekly on the streets of Londonstan. Are politicians have taken the lazy option as usual!!
Chakrabarti only picks arguments she agrees with…..otherwise principles go out the window and hypocrasy comes straight through the front door.
Stef had some interesting comments about Shami,
“Shami’s CV in a nutshell…
* Worked as a Barrister for the Home Office 1996-2001
* Leaves(?) Home Office and Joins Liberty 10th September 2001
* Appointed director of Liberty September 2003
Shami is the first person to be called whenever someone is required to speak out against the latest legislative monstrosity and you can rest assured that she could organise photoshoots featuring scary undead celebrity crones for the next 5,000 years and not change a single fucking thing
In short, opposition to the creeping fascism we’ve experienced for the last eleven years has been carefully managed and all sewn up“
In fact, he’s had quite a few things to say about her all pointing to the same conclusion. Gov stooge. Faux campaigner taking space from someone who could make a difference.
I used to know Shami a bit – not well – when she was a government lawyer, and I liked her and respected her. But I am sometimes critical of Liberty, which I think has a culture, established before her time to be fair but it seems going on unchallenged, of being afraid to stand up freedom of expression when it gets caught up with religious offence or allegations of racism.
I don’t recall Liberty taking any stand on the play that was bullied off the stage in Birmingham, Bezhti, for example – although that was the most egregious example in recent times of freedom of expression being snuffed out by the “angry mob” that Shami sees, rightly up to a point, as her enemy, as she explained on Desert Island Discs recently.
John2009: Abu Hamza was/is in a very different situation. A purported British citizen, already in the country, and with worries about his treatment if he were to be returned to any country that would take him. On the other hand, dozens of other Islamist preachers *have* been refused entry in the same way that Wilders has been. If you’re trying to suggest double standards, at least try comparing like with like.
“I used to know Shami a bit – not well – when she was a government lawyer, and I liked her and respected her. “
The links to Stef’s blog that I gave earlier gave lots of criticism of Shami. The bases of the criticism (gleaned from participating in Stef’s comments section) were an extrapolation from Shami’s predecessor’s career path; viz, Gov lawyer, liberty fink, plum gov job and that given earlier and noted by yourself. Unexplained absenteeism.
Yes, gyg3s, Chakrabarti shows every sign of being a Fabian New Labour Common Purpose stooge.
Never thought Liberty would comment but l did think DD would as he ran his election campaign on free speech. He isn’t in the Shadow Cabinet so l can’t see his reasoning for not defending his ‘ideal’.
The virtual total silence from the Conservatives was sickening and the statement from Liberals did J Smiths job for her.
lt’s beyond belief that Parliament is so out of touch with the electorate (excluding the ‘protected’ Muslims of course). Current polls are running at around 85% saying it was wrong to ban Wilders.
Unfortunately that is 85% of the electorate that take an interest in current affairs … the vast majority of the UK electorate live in total apathy.
Blame is laid on Muslims for their increasing influence on current affairs and regulations but it is not their fault that their belief in lslam rallies them when called to by various leaders. The blame lays squarely on the shoulders of the rest of the electorate who do nothing to voice their opinions.
To be fair though, who would rally the electorate? ls there a Party that speaks for them? … no!.
Which leaves the door open for Radical Parties such as the BNP. Do Lib/Lab/Con want such parties as the BNP as mainstream?
Nationalist Parties thrive when there is a recession/depression and people are losing their jobs/homes. They take advantage of it … hence BNP are currently shouting about Freedom of Speech whereas Conservatives etc are silent.
This is frightening!
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